Thu 26 Nov 2009
Blog Comment Spam Advice From Google
Blurb by Shaun Anderson (Hobo)Comment spamming advice just posted from Google:
At best, a link spammer might spend hours doing spammy linkdrops which would count for little or nothing because Google is pretty good at devaluing these types of links
One of the reasons I moderate all comments, and use a custom wordpress comments plugin so only returning visitors get a search engine friendly link.
It’s probably kind of easy for Google to spot comments on blogs.
On first crawl, it gets the fresh page, second, the page with some comment links, third, more comment links (Google does seem to have a long memory). Probably easy to devalue comments even without knowing the system involved.
If you are going to comment, probably best to get in early, and keep it intelligent.
It seems to be getting more and more these days Google is actually telling US (you and me) to clean up OUR existing link profile.
I wonder if this failure to do so will feature more heavily in the 2010 algorithm, in terms of your own site rankings.
If you used this approach in the past and you want to solve this issue, you should have a look at your incoming links in Webmaster Tools. To do so, go to the Your site on the web section and click on Links to your site. If you see suspicious links coming from blogs or other platforms allowing comments, you should check these URLs. If you see a spammy link you created, try to delete it, else contact the webmaster to ask to remove the link. Once you’ve cleared the spammy inbound links you made, you can file a reconsideration request.
The question is of course… why bother? I don’t see anything on that post that mentions penalties. And of course, if there was, you could just mass spam blogs to take out your competitors.
posting tons of links that point back to the poster’s site in an attempt to boost their site’s ranking
Ah, Google means…. tons. Mass spamming, cross scripting then?
Yeah no wonder Google is posting this I am watching a well known SEO company in England cross script a popular comments plugin for a client, just in time for Christmas – it’s working too.
The odd link shouldn’t be a problem then?
Others might tweak this approach a bit by posting a generic comment (like “Nice site!”) with a commercial user name linking to their site.
Has Google got a range of crappy comment types it’s going to start trying to find? That would actually be sweet lol.
But it’s kind of vague. Who’s blog is getting nuked? The blog the comments are on, or the site the comments point to?
For this reason there are many ways of securing your application and disincentivizing spammers.
- Disallow anonymous posting.
- Use CAPTCHAs and other methods to prevent automated comment spamming.
- Turn on comment moderation.
- Use the “nofollow” attribute for links in the comment field.
- Disallow hyperlinks in comments.
- Block comment pages using robots.txt or meta tags.
Above, I’ve bolded the one thing you actually need to stop comment spammers.
Comment spammers are a pain – why I outed one, but this post doesn’t really tell us anything we didn’t already know….
Block comments pages using Robots.txt?
Not likely.
Did you know when you link to a Hobo SEO post we have search engine friendly links back to your site if approved? Our comments are also search engine friendly you know (once you've commented on a few posts)! Do you need any more encouragement to get involved in the conversation ;)

I agree with you that this seems like much ado about nothing. Google can’t really penalize a site for inbound links. As you said, it would be really easy (and way too much fun) to take down your competition that way. Also makes no sense to penalize a popular blog for getting comments.
This just seems like another case of Google trying to get us to do something only because its whats best for Google. We run about a dozen blogs that each get daily comments and we manage to moderate them all just fine. Never had a single problem with comment spam.
Trying to think of the post and for the life of me can’t remember it.
Recall reading a writeup on comment spam, and how it actually does effect the blog in the index, based on the text used in comments. Could result in a penalty using “adult” phrases for example that would trip the safe search filter.
Wouldn’t it be great if the spammers actually got with the times and realised the blog comment spam is fruitless
Using the plugin given by Matt Cutts in one of it’s videos has worked wondered for me. Its name is ‘cookie for comments’.
Off course the moderation is essential and I guess the problem of of blog spamming happens a lot on blog that are no longer kept up to date.
Finally putting a limit of 2 (or less) links before the comment should be moderated is great also.
By the way, Shaun, you use nofollow free, right ? Has the blacklist feature and limit in comment number kept ‘human’ spammers at bay ?
Hey you know what I’m not even sure how I started receiving these emails but I do look forward to them, you are about the only SEO person whose stuff I actually read cos it doesn’t bore me and you’re not hard-selling me. I’m looking for new ways to promote my site and I’ve used a few of your ideas so far, still a lot of hard work getting links in mind you. While I’m here I thought I might point out a typo in your page (“post doesn’t realy tell us anything”, really ), keep the good stuff coming mate
I’m a little confused – but that is nothing new!
I recently referred to and linked to an article on my own blog and there is now a trackback link displayed on the other website.
If I look in Webmaster Tools I see that this one trackback has resulted in 62 back links from the other site (from unrelated tags, categories and posts).
Is this the kind of thing Google is talking about, is this a spammy link and what can I do about it?
PS Thanks for the free Google SEO and Linkbuilding guides. I have a lot to learn!
Given that the links in webmaster tools have been rubbish ever since they changed the system a few months ago their advice seems pretty worthless (no change there then). The number of links listed fell dramatically. A number of people mentioned this at the time it happened but they all got a canned response of “it’s more accurate now”. They can’t even get the internal links right let alone the external.
And since when did spammers ever spend hours dropping links? Have Google ever heard of robots?
Apropos your custom wordpress comments plugin, which changes nofollow to dofollow after a certain number of posts have been approved –
My thoughts are that it would be as easy to use the dofollow-case-by-case type of plugin so that you have manual control over who I dofollow to.
So, with your plugin, is there a manual disable button to stop or retract a dofollow of someone the plug in has previously dofollowed?
David – NO. Example. You leave 4 comments, you don’t get a link. When you leave your 5th comment, all your signature link becomes active. That’s how the Hobo custom wordpress comments plugin works.
@David Robertson – I get scraped all the time. I leave comments on a few blogs too and the same thing happens. I wouldn’t worry about it at this time. ACTUAL INTENT is a big thing with Google these days. If your comments pass a manual review you would be OK, I think.
@Bill indeed
@Oisin thaks a lot – yeah this blog is a bit of a labour of love and my MD is always asking if I should be hard selling you lot but I can’t be bothered
@Léo, Propulsr – I used cookie for comments but I found a lot of my comments heading for the spam. I just moderate myself these days. It’s a bit of work but so is anything worthwhile.
@Brett was it this recent post at SEOgadget you were refering too? Yeah, that’s totally unrelated adult spam on poorly moderated blogs – that’s not hard to detect and frankly folk with comments like that should get nuked…..
@Bill | Edward Rayne – Exactly – sometimes the big G’s advice is as clear as mud
Nice one Shaun! Here’s what I don’t get… Google says “don’t build pages for Searcgh Engines” then turn around and for the last few months have done nothing but tell us how and what to do on our sites. IMO, a big NOYFB should be the resounding cry. By the way isn’t this kind of a way to say heay… “nothing we can do” please help us by making your comments less useful to you and a pain to use for your audience. Of course the sheeple will see this fear mongering and shut off comments or some other act only the mentally challenged endeavor.
I agree it’s gonna be hard for Google to actually put any penalty against a site for the incoming links however I’m thinking too many of these could contribute to a shady link profile maybe?
Terry exactly!
If you look at the comments on that Google post as well, you’ll see just how confused the Sheeple are!
BTW I wasn’t referring to your piece Shaun… more the way Google has put it out there.
Conflicting advice from Google? Never!!!
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I get heaps of comment spam but I don’t have a problem. My blog uses WordPress and I just use Akismet. It picks up everything and it’s very accurate. I can’t recall one false positive in thousands and thousands of spam comments in several years.
My options are set up to automatically moderate the first comment from a contributor – and I check for bad smells very carefully. For example, it has to be a thoughtful contribution about the actual topic of the post. But I don’t do no-follow and it doesn’t seem to have hurt me.
I read an SEO guru (no, a really good one…) who said not to bother.
I don’t allow anonymous posting. I would install captcha except that I find it frustrating filling those things in all day soi I don’t want to subject others to it if I don’t have to.
Sounds as if you know what you’re doing Roger
It is important to moderate comments and acertain whether they were posted by a bot or someone who genuinely read a post and added value to it when commenting.
Google is used to do that: “we want you to do OUR job”. Why should I Block comments pages using Robots.txt? That is GOOD content. Why should I go and contact every webmaster that has a spammy link to my website (even if I didn’t create it) and lose TIME sking him to remove it.
If they want me to do THEIR job… start paying me.
@Consultor SEO I have a post in my drafts about that